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Dear Sirs,

I have just received my copy of AC's Tech Volume 4 number 2, in which
you published an article I wrote.  First I would like to thank you for
accepting my article, it is a real thrill for me to see an article I
wrote in print.  There is one problem I noticed in the article as
published, all the code fragment lines are run together.
For example on page 27
The code fragment
       extern long dosomething(); /* declare function */

       main ()
       {
          long result;
          result = dosomething(1, 3,6, "STRING");
       }
was printed as
       extern long dosomething(); /* declare function */
       main ()     {           long result;           result =
dosomething(1, 3,6, "STRING"); }

Was there a problem with the way I submitted the source to this article
which caused this problem?  Is there anything I can do with future
articles to prevent this problem?

Also, I quite enjoyed the articles by Dan Weiss "A Look at Compression"
and Daniel Stenberg "AmigaDOS Shared Libraries".

I have some thoughts on articles that I would like to see in "AC Tech"
or "AC".
    1) How to attach a CD-ROM to your Amiga
    2) An article comparing the merits of various CD-ROM file
       systems (including the 3.1 CD-ROM support).
    3) Articles by CBM technical staff describing new features
       in OS3.0/3.1 and how to use them.
    4) Would it be possible to negotiate with CBM to reproduce
       key AmigaMail articles in AC Tech?

The only complaint that I have with AC Tech is that it took me two
days to read it and now I have another 3 month wait for the next
issue ;-(

Regards,
Paul Gittings


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#: 40072 S16/Ramblings
    12-Mar-94  22:11:21
Sb: #Commodore in the Mall
Fm: John M. Vreeland 73204,1450
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Years after Software etc and Babbages traded their Amiga shelf space for Sega
software the Amiga has returned to the hometown shopping mall.  I found one
running the digital t-shirt and coffee mug picture kiosk.  It looked like a 500
but I'm not sure what the 600 and 1200 look like.

-Vree-in Virginia.

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In library 13...


GUILIB.LHA/Bin  Bytes: 175965

  Title   : GUItools.library v38.0, easy GUI builder
  Keywords: GUITOOLS GUI CREATE ZIEGELER

  This is the new release of the guitools.library (v38.0) which does a lot
  of work for you when creating, handling and checking GUIs.  Nearly all of
  the intuition message handling is done by GUITools.  In addition it is
  possible to automatically handle key equivalents, and GUITools is also
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  modules for SASC and M2Amiga!  German doc only.  By Carsten Ziegeler

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#: 40100 S5/C Programming
    15-Mar-94  18:03:17
Sb: #40097-#Flash a Gadget
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom 76703,2006
To: David Czaya 73445,407 (X)

David,

Well, you've got 2 choices, code it as you are doing now (I've never seen
any side effects, but the warning is there) or don't use gadtools ...
create your own gadgets.

-sja

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  BreakName 37.0 (initial release).  This is a simple addition to the
  C:Break command. BreakName may break processes by issuing either  a) the
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#: 40250 S4/General Programming
    26-Mar-94  17:22:43
Sb: #40245-#Value of Enforcer
Fm: Shraddhan 70374,754
To: Jim Butterfield 73624,14 (X)

> check for a stack overrun

The problem isn't here - the program checks the stack at certain critical
points, and hasn't issued a warning.  Also, a utility confirms that at
worst I still have 16K of stack unused.

> the program works OK "for some time"

I should have added that this time seems to be quite random :-(
If I put a break point in the program, it fails before reaching it, or
doesn't fail after the break point.  Usually there's no crash, just maybe
another program stops working, or my program pops up an illogical error
message, or the AmigaDOS COPY program gurus...

> what are you taking that you don't put back?

Nothing that I can think of - the computer doesn't run out of memory, and
while the program is running, no windows are opened are closed.  Also,
before returning any memory, its contents are first overwritten to try to
force a crash if the memory is accessed in error by my program.  And it's
not a hardware problem - all of my other software runs fine.


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all to no avail.  That's why I'm wondering if something like Mungwall
could help, in which case, I would have to go to the trouble of replacing
the processor with one which has an MMU.


Regards,
   Shraddhan (via AP from Hertfordshire, England)

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#: 40301 S16/Ramblings
    30-Mar-94  18:19:16
Sb: #40263-Animation viewer
Fm: Ron Legro 75136,2066
To: Steve Canham 74223,2262

Doesn't BigAnim do that? I think it reads anim files in real time from a
hard disk so you can stay within your system memory. It should be
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#: 137340 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  20:10:46
Sb: #Commodore Stock
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: all

Did any one notice that Commodore stock was not traded on the NYSE today?

Or that the WSJ carried an article with the headline "Commodore may face
liquidation" (page B3)?


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
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#: 137349 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  22:02:51
Sb: #137340-Commodore Stock
Fm: Steve Pietrowicz/SYSOP 76701,250
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

I noticed the first (stock not traded) when I got home today.  Should be
interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days....

#: 137350 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  22:03:30
Sb: #137340-Commodore Stock
Fm: Paul Idol 71024,3245
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Well, on that bright note there's a building I've been meaning to jump out
of for quite some time now!


Cheers!

Paul

#: 137380 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  03:37:40
Sb: #137340-#Commodore Stock
Fm: daniel wolf 70250,626
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

my broker said there was 'an order imbalance' in Commodore - in other words,
more sellers than buyers, causing a trading halt until price could be
established.  those with weak knees are bailing.

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#: 137400 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  12:38:50
Sb: #137380-Commodore Stock
Fm: Richard Erickson 72017,632
To: daniel wolf 70250,626

Now the NYSE is deciding if Commodore should remain on the exchange, and
the price is down to 75 cents.

Richard -> AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000

#: 137389 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  08:51:16
Sb: #137340-#Commodore Stock
Fm: gary vassalotti 73710,1721
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

I have noticed with the Journal, that with certain stocks, the only NEWS that
is reported is the bad news, and the good things that happen are ignored.  If
you followed chrysler when it almost whent belly up and hit $3 share, they
placed large headlines with the negative news, and the positive news that was
comming out on the company received small type in the middle of the paper.

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#: 137404 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  14:04:06
Sb: #137389-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: gary vassalotti 73710,1721 (X)

Commodore stock trading on the NYSE is still halted while "the exchange
reviews its eligibility for continued listing of the issue."

While no stock has traded since the close of the market Friday, the noon
asking price was 1.75 and offer was .75.

WSJ didn't invent something.  They came close to quoting Commodore's own
financial report.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
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#: 137480 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    30-Mar-94  07:52:11
Sb: #137404-Commodore Stock
Fm: gary vassalotti 73710,1721
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Yes, I agree that the WSJ did not invent anything and was accurate in their
reporting.  I was not trying to imply otherwise.

Gary

#: 137409 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  15:14:00
Sb: #137340-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Does this mean the end of Commodore, for real, final?  Is CBU stock
worthless?

-Jerry Thompson

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#: 137410 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  15:28:15
Sb: #137409-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710 (X)

Jerry,

Here are 2 stories (one liners, actually) that I just picked up in my ENS
folder ...

Executive News Svc.($)

   List of 2 selected stories

 1 RTf  03/29 1419  COMMODORE INTL <CBU.N> SAYS HAS "EVERY INTENTION OF
 2 RTf  03/29 1418  COMMODORE INTL <CBU.N> SAYS EXPECTS STOCK TRADING ...

!1
Executive News Svc.($)

RTf  03/29 1419  COMMODORE INTL <CBU.N> SAYS HAS "EVERY INTENTION OF

RESTRUCTURING"
 REUTER


!2
Executive News Svc.($)

RTf  03/29 1418  COMMODORE INTL <CBU.N> SAYS EXPECTS STOCK TRADING ...

COMMODORE INTL <CBU.N> SAYS EXPECTS STOCK TRADING CAN RESUME IN DAY OR TWO
 REUTER

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#: 137413 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  16:48:37
Sb: #137410-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Mike Loader @ Soft-Logik 76004,1676
To: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006 (X)

It appears that Commodore stock is trading again at $1.

Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing Corp.

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#: 137414 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  17:03:49
Sb: #137413-Commodore Stock
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: Mike Loader @ Soft-Logik 76004,1676 (X)

You're right, it appears they've resumed.  In the meantime, I just picked this
up from ENS ...

RTf  03/29 1440  Commodore <CBU.N> sees trading resumption

    PHILADELPHIA, March 29 (Reuter) - Stock trading in Commodore International
Ltd is likely to resume within a day or two and the company intends to
restructure its finances, a company official said.
    "We have every intention of restructuring," said Jeff Porter, Commodore's
director of advanced technology.
    He said he expected trading in the stock, halted while the New York Stock
Exchange reviews its eligibiilty for continued listing, to resume once exchange
officials have had a chance to talk to Commodore chief financial officer Hock
Tan, who has been unavailable Monday and today.

#: 137469 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    30-Mar-94  02:13:09
Sb: #137410-Commodore Stock
Fm: Don Curtis/SYSOP 76703,4321
To: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006 (X)

Steve,
        And  a late entry retracting earlier statements:


Executive News Svc.

RTf  03/29 1904  Commodore <CBU.N> says trading prospect unknown

    PHILADELPHIA, March 29 (Reuter) - Commodore International Ltd <CBU.N> said
it did not know whether or when a previously announced trading halt would be
lifted and said comments earlier in the day by a company official on that and
other issues were unauthorized and inaccurate.
    "We do not know whether or when the previously announced trading halt in
Commodore stock on the New York Stock Exchange will be lifted," Commodore said
in a statement. Commodore chief financial officer Hock Tan said in a telephone
interview the company had spoken with exchange officials today, but had no
knowledge of when trading might resume.


                                Don

#: 137412 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  16:36:39
Sb: #137409-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710 (X)

Hardly.  I mean, it might, but it also might just mean the Medhi is
playing head games with the banks.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
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#: 137415 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  17:23:45
Sb: #137412-Commodore Stock
Fm: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Well, I guess I can hope that Irving and Mehdi were just manipulating the
stock to drive it lower so they can buy big before it goes up again.

I can't believe I'm actually wishing some fat cats are manipulating stock
prices to line their already overstuffed pockets.  The reason I'm doing
freelance work from home now is because of high level corporate
shenanigans that I had no control over.  I like working from home a lot,
but the timing wasn't my choice.

-Jerry

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#: 136972 S1/New Uploads
    25-Mar-94  15:54:17
Sb: AmigaToNTSC/AmigaToPAL
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: All

In Library 3 (Screen Utilities) ...

NTSCPL.LHA/Bin  Bytes:   8147

  Title   : AmigaToNTSC v1.2 and AmigaToPAL v1.2
  Keywords: AMIGATONTSC AMIGATOPAL NTSC PAL SRCEEN FRANCOIS

  AmigaToNTSC v1.2 patches graphics.library so it will think you have an
  NTSC Amiga.  AmigaToPAL will patch it to think you have a PAL Amiga.
  Custom screens will open in the mode selected.  By Nico Francois


-sja

#: 136984 S1/New Uploads
    25-Mar-94  15:55:32
Sb: AmigaDiary v1.13
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: All

In Library 13 (General Apps) ...

ADIARY.LHA/Bin  Bytes:  55365

  Title   : AmigaDiary v1.13, mouse driven workbench diary
  Keywords: AMIGADIARY DIARY WB WORKBENCH BIRTHDAY SOURCE ASM PEARSON

  AmigaDiary v1.13 is a handy workbench tool of the type that
  currently abound office PC's.  It is a mouse driven diary capable of
  storing all personal events and is the perfect solution to all those
  forgotten birthdays, missed appointments etc.  Includes asm source. By
  Andrew K. Pearson


-sja

#: 136650 S2/Forum Business/Help
    22-Mar-94  01:53:36
Sb: Amiga Store
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: Daniel J. McCoy 73742,3072 (X)

Whoops!  [phone] it is.  I must have had a cognitive dropout when I
typed that. <G>


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

#: 136682 S2/Forum Business/Help
    22-Mar-94  17:09:53
Sb: Amiga 1200, wholesaler?
Fm: John M. Iguchi 70710,15
To: All

One of our customers is looking for the best price for Amiga 1200 (FDD-type).
Would you suggest where we can contact to get resale discount?

Thank you for your help in advance,

John

#: 137625 S2/Forum Business/Help
    31-Mar-94  16:50:25
Sb: #Amiga language
Fm: karen oglesby 73537,3660
To: all

I am trying to find a book for my son called Amiga Machine Language by Abacus.
Wo would anyone know where I could locate it, please?  Thank you

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#: 137629 S2/Forum Business/Help
    31-Mar-94  18:46:11
Sb: #137625-Amiga language
Fm: Jim Butterfield 73624,14
To: karen oglesby 73537,3660

"Amiga Machine Language" by Stefan Dittrich (originally written in German), a
Data Becker book, ISBN 1-55755-25-5, published in North America by Abacus, 5370
52nd Street SE, Grand Rapids MI, 49508.
  The book was first out in 1987; you best bet is likely to contact Abacus to
see if any copies remain.
  The book has a number of flaws: in particular, it emphasizes use of the
Abacus/Becker AssenPro assembler, a weak software package.  But M/L stuff for
the Amiga isn't easy to find, so you may find it worth while to look for this
one.
                       --Jim

#: 137635 S2/Forum Business/Help
    31-Mar-94  19:30:59
Sb: #137625-Amiga language
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: karen oglesby 73537,3660

Any bookstore should be able to look it up in books in print and order it.
Unless it is out of print.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 136654 S5/Communications
    22-Mar-94  02:06:05
Sb: #SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Scott A. Matalon 76505,2615
To: All

hi.,...do i need amigados 2.04 to run amitcp?  I downloaded it and it said i
was running level 34 but needed 37.  I saw setpatch 37 in the lib and it
appeared to be u 2.04 upgrade to level 37... can anyone comment? thanx! Im
tryin the slip method of connection to my unix box; I have a null modem cable
linking the amiga to com2 on the sco box. Thanx! -Scott

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#: 136663 S5/Communications
    22-Mar-94  06:11:34
Sb: #136654-SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Scott A. Matalon 76505,2615

Even if AmiTCP itself doesn't require 2.04, most utilities do.  Upgrade.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 136697 S5/Communications
    22-Mar-94  19:42:44
Sb: #136654-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Jonathan Blackwell 71732,3311
To: Scott A. Matalon 76505,2615

Who doesn't run 2.04 or later on there Amiga?  If you haven't upgraded
sometime in the last few years, I would highly recommend it.  Most
utilities require it.

-Jonathan
      //  Amiga online via Autopilot
   \\//   MAC Quadra 900 & 486 emulation via Amiga!

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#: 136965 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  15:15:14
Sb: #136697-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Keesom 100332,3410
To: Jonathan Blackwell 71732,3311 (X)

>486 emulation via Amiga!
Is this h/w or s/w?
Hans Keesom Amsterdam

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#: 137047 S5/Communications
    26-Mar-94  02:56:26
Sb: #136965-SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Jonathan Blackwell 71732,3311
To: Keesom 100332,3410 (X)

Either, take your pick!

-Jonathan
      //  Amiga online via Autopilot
   \\//   MAC Quadra 900 & 486 emulation via Amiga!

#: 136718 S5/Communications
    23-Mar-94  00:11:36
Sb: #136654-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: Scott A. Matalon 76505,2615

The setpatch is NOT to upgrade your operating system, but is a later
version of the setpatch program (than that distributed with 2.04) intended
for people running 2.04 only.  Ignore it, if you upgrade to 2.1 you will
get a later version of setpatch with it anyway.


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

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#: 136748 S5/Communications
    23-Mar-94  08:38:19
Sb: #136718-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Karl Kugel 72467,2474 (X)

You are right that Scott needs to upgrade to 2.04 generally, but there is
a v37 setpatch more recent than the one that comes with 2.1.


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 136903 S5/Communications
    24-Mar-94  22:44:47
Sb: #136748-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Dale, you're sure?  I thought the setpatch HERE was for 2.04 only.


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

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#: 136938 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  04:41:49
Sb: #136903-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Karl Kugel 72467,2474 (X)

Let me explain further.  2.1 is a disk-only set.  It works with 2.05 or
2.04.  Most of the current v37 setpatch esentially upgrades 2.04 to 2.05
(which is a bug-fix only update).  I'm 90% sure that the current v37
setpatch also fixes a couple of post 2.05 bugs and works correctly on both
2.04 and 2.05 ROMs.

I believe the current (and publicly available) v37 setpatch is 37.39.


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137179 S5/Communications
    27-Mar-94  02:37:08
Sb: #136938-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: tim budd 72673,1054
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

>I believe the current (and publicly available) v37 setpatch is 37.39

PMFJI but I just checked the version of SetPatch I have with AD2.1 and it
is Ver. 40.14(7.10.93) which is 13,200 bytes. I used "ShowRev 1.9" by
Christof Damian to check it.

Don't know if this is of any help.

Tim Budd
An Amigan in Tokyo

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#: 137190 S5/Communications
    27-Mar-94  05:01:08
Sb: #137179-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: tim budd 72673,1054 (X)

That is the version of SetPatch which is on your 2.1 distribution disks?
Are you *sure*?

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137283 S5/Communications
    28-Mar-94  04:34:49
Sb: #137190-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Brian Bartlett 72037,570
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Dale,
   that is the version (40.14) that I have, and I sure ain't a developer,
and yes, I'm using AmigaDOS 2.1.


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#: 137296 S5/Communications
    28-Mar-94  09:37:39
Sb: #137283-SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Christopher Tolmie 73657,3335
To: Brian Bartlett 72037,570 (X)

Hmm,

Seems I have an older version of SetPatch with my AmigaDOS 2.1 set.

version c:setpatch

setpatch 38.31

I wonder, do I need to update to 40.14? Where can I get it if I should
update, and what are the changes from 38.31 to 40.14?

Anybody got the answers?


Thanks,


Christopher

#: 137337 S5/Communications
    28-Mar-94  20:05:21
Sb: #137283-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Brian Bartlett 72037,570 (X)

I asked what version was on your 2.1 distribution disks.  You don't have
to be a developer to get new versions of SetPatch, they are usually freely
redistributable.

Some programs install scripts sometimes install the wrong version of
setpatch.  A v40 setpatch on a v37/38 system is probably the equivalent of
no setpatch at all.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137376 S5/Communications
    29-Mar-94  03:36:54
Sb: #137337-#SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Brian Bartlett 72037,570
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Dale,
   yep, the version on the 2.1 distribution is what you said it should be.
 I wonder where this one came from?  Time to nose around.


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#: 137386 S5/Communications
    29-Mar-94  07:56:26
Sb: #137376-SLIP/AmigaDOS
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Brian Bartlett 72037,570 (X)

Don't worry about it.  Just grab the latest v37/v38 and install it.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 136946 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  08:47:09
Sb: #Remote Control Amiga
Fm: Michael Starr 73313,1230
To:  76703,2006 (X)

Steve,

I was wondering if you know of a software package for the Amiga that allows you
to remote control your machine via a modem.  (Sort of like Carbon Copy for the
Mac and PC)  If you know of such a package, please let me know.

Thanks, Michael Starr 73313,1230


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#: 136992 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  18:41:03
Sb: #136946-Remote Control Amiga
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: Michael Starr 73313,1230 (X)

Michael,

No, I sure don't.  That's not to say it doesn't exist, it's just that I've
never had a need for such so haven't looked.  Hopefully someone else will
be able to give you a more definitive answer.

-sja

#: 137063 S8/Business Apps
    26-Mar-94  07:31:25
Sb: #Amiga Accounts
Fm: Lu Beranek 100033,3576
To: Charles Collinson 100014,1044 (X)

The ones I've come across are B.E.S.T., Nimbus and Order Desk by Gramma -
the last one includes stock control etc.

A quick look at my AC Guide reveals Accounts payable/receivable, Business
front, check ledger, Day-2-day professional, desktop budget, General
Ledger, The Accountant etc.

Some people I know happily used PHA$AR but I guess it depends what you're
looking for in the package.

Last time I was in Thirsk, I thought I was in South Yorkshire :-)

regards, Lu on AutoPilot downunder

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#: 137197 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  08:17:56
Sb: #137063-#Amiga Accounts
Fm: Charles Collinson 100014,1044
To: Lu Beranek 100033,3576 (X)

 Thanks Lu I've noted your titles and will enquire further to see what does
what. All I'm really looking for is a simple accounts program that uses
sales/purchase ledgers. Most will no doubt do this simple task it's just some
have funny ways of doing it.
 Nop, you were definitely in North Yorkshire and don't let anyone convince you
otherwise. Leeds, Sheffield and the like are S Yorkshire. <g>


                                      Charles
                    * Thirsk - North Yorkshire - United Kingdom *

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#: 137230 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  17:32:00
Sb: #137197-#Amiga Accounts
Fm: Jim Butterfield 73624,14
To: Charles Collinson 100014,1044 (X)

Perhaps you view not-North as South ... but anyone from Leeds (Leedsian?
Leeder?  Leederpudlian?  or just plain Tyke?) would identify themselves as
being from West Yorkshire.  Not sure if the designation West Riding is still in
use, but I notice residents still identify themselves as West Yorkshire.
                 --Jim

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#: 137257 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  22:58:22
Sb: #137230-Amiga Accounts
Fm: Betty Clay/SYSOP 76702,337
To: Jim Butterfield 73624,14 (X)

In which part of Yorkshire do your relatives live, Jim?


---Betty

#: 137411 S8/Business Apps
    29-Mar-94  16:26:14
Sb: #137230-#Amiga Accounts
Fm: Charles Collinson 100014,1044
To: Jim Butterfield 73624,14 (X)

 The point I was making was that Thirsk is well and truely in North Yorkshire.
As to where Leeds stands I can't check without an informative UK map. So I'll
take your word for it. To add, I do on reflection believe you due to the
Pennies been somewhere close by. So I assume Doncaster and maybe Sheffield are
nearer to South Yorkshire (the mining area). So in South Yorkshire you dig into
hills, in West Yorkshire you build all over them and in North Yorkshire you
just admire them. What do we do with East Yorkshire? :-)


                                      Charles
                    * Thirsk - North Yorkshire - United Kingdom *

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#: 137443 S8/Business Apps
    29-Mar-94  22:13:13
Sb: #137411-Amiga Accounts
Fm: Jim Butterfield 73624,14
To: Charles Collinson 100014,1044 (X)

  I'm rather hazy on where the border lines are drawn, too.  I would think that
East Yorkshire must include York and Scarborough, so we could categorize it at
least in part by history, museums, headlands and fish.
  Not sure how far North I could extend this area though (hate to be accused of
appropriating territory from North Yorkshire.  Unexpected Robin Hood territory
(coast up to Whitby)?  Mousey Johnson territory?  Perhaps that last is too
close to the dales.
  J. B. Priestley's mythical Bruddersford was intended to personify the
industrial West Riding.  Certainly there are enough smoke-stained buildings and
slag heaps still in that area.  But the WR has its charms:  Bronte country,
Ilkley Moor; Malham and Grassington; Giggleswick, Wigglesworth, and the Forest
of Bowland.
  And most Yorkshire folks that I know head to the North Riding for holidays:
perhaps the Dales, perhaps the urban spa of Harrogate.  So you must have
something going for you up there.
                --Jim

#: 137180 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  02:37:24
Sb: #Amiga Accounts
Fm: tim budd 72673,1054
To: Charles Collinson 100014,1044 (X)

>I'm looking for a business accounts package

Charles, I recall there was an article in AW that reviewed this type of
package for the Amiga. I thought it was last year but the Annual Index for
1993 (see AW Jan. '94) doesn't show anything. In AW February 1992 I found
the following in an article titled, "Prepare to meet thy Auditor".

Phasar - Marksman Technology(distributed by Psygnosis): a home/business
accounting system package

Service Industry Accounting - Brown-Wagh (408-378-3838) Los Gatos Calif.

The Accountant - KFS: (916-824-2944) Corning Calif.

The author of the article was Gary Ludwick who was president of The
Creative Department which is an advertising agency based in Charlotte,
North Carolina. It indicates you can write to him c/o AmigaWorld
Editorial, 80 Elm St., Peterborough, NH 03458.

I know this is old information and that you will have to worry whether
these programs do what you want them to and/or if they will work on a
A1200. I distinctly remember an article on Business Packages but the AW
indexes for the last 2 years only lists the above article. Maybe someone
else will remember the one I am thinking of.

Hope this helps.

Tim Budd
An Amigan in Tokyo

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#: 137198 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  08:18:02
Sb: #137180-Amiga Accounts
Fm: Charles Collinson 100014,1044
To: tim budd 72673,1054 (X)

 Hi Tim,
 Yes all your comments/info helps and I will now check theses titles further.
I'll have a go at looking for the AW articles you mentioned. Thanks again.


                                      Charles
                    * Thirsk - North Yorkshire - United Kingdom *

#: 136689 S8/Business Apps
    22-Mar-94  18:27:49
Sb: #Amiga Accounts
Fm: Charles Collinson 100014,1044
To: MICHAEL DANIEL 100331,1506 (X)

 Thanks Richard,
 I've considered Home Accounts, but was looking for something with
sales/purchase ledgers. At the moment I'm running Arena Accounts, but it's
either bugged to hell or I'm loosing my touch. What I'm thinking, is whether to
try a US package that works properly. But I'm still looking into Arena to see
if it works correctly and if not force an update.
 What other forums are there for the Amiga. I've got A'Venders, A'Users,
A'Art(?) --- is there more !!

                                      Charles
                    * Thirsk - North Yorkshire - United Kingdom *

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#: 136770 S8/Business Apps
    23-Mar-94  16:36:09
Sb: #136689-#Amiga Accounts
Fm: MICHAEL DANIEL 100331,1506
To: Charles Collinson 100014,1044 (X)

Charles,

There is one other Amiga Forum available on Compuserve. It is Amiga Tech (GO
AMIGATECH). Believe it or not it involves the technical side of the Amiga.

Arena Accounts is probably bugged. I have not used it before, but have had
dealings with programs, commercially released that are.

I am probably wrong, but you will usually find better packages over here in the
UK than in the US, but its your choice, I would investigate it myself.

----Richard Daniel.

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#: 137194 S8/Business Apps
    27-Mar-94  06:45:33
Sb: #136770-Amiga Accounts
Fm: Charles Collinson 100014,1044
To: MICHAEL DANIEL 100331,1506 (X)

 I forgot about AmigaTech forum, have to have a fresh look in there.
 No I'm getting to the bottom of Arena and it is a little bugged but nothing to
worry about and the company is at this minute correcting it. It was a
combination of a poor operator (not me <g>) and a few program faults. On the
whole Arena is the only UK accounts package that does the job when it comes to
business accounts but a new modern version wouldn't go amiss nowadays.
 Arena is the best we have I think but I was just wondering if the US packages
were more useful/complex on the business needs. The only other system is
Digti's cashbook combo, but they don't intergrate well enough for our need for
sales and purchase ledgers.
 Thanks for the pointers Richard and if you find out anymore please keep me
informed.


                                      Charles
                    * Thirsk - North Yorkshire - United Kingdom *

#: 136664 S11/Amiga Hardware
    22-Mar-94  09:26:19
Sb: No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Steven Mussey 71241,1124
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Wow!  Thanks for the incredible reply and the help!

?EXIT

#: 136676 S11/Amiga Hardware
    22-Mar-94  15:13:15
Sb: #No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Tom Jones 76470,1332
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Wow! Some list Ron, thanks. I posted that on my BBS for the users to use
as reference, and printed it for my own use.

How did you do that?

Tom
Oklahoma City, OK  USA
[e-mail]

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#: 136723 S11/Amiga Hardware
    23-Mar-94  00:24:26
Sb: #136676-No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: Tom Jones 76470,1332 (X)

TJ >>Some list Ron [...] How did you do that?<<

A local BBS, which has an Internet feed, collects some of the newsgroups
for the Amiga.  Lists for Amiga monitors, and other devices & software are
posted periodically.  I collect them, and as needed -- I post them
elsewhere.

Ron.


 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

#: 136711 S11/Amiga Hardware
    22-Mar-94  21:37:13
Sb: #No Amiga Monitors
Fm: David Hamm 76357,2667
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Thanks Ronald!!

  That list is just what I need...

  My new A4000 has been sitting on my desk since January (with no monitor)... I
think I'll take your listing down to my local PC department store this weekend!

Thanks!
 - Dave

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#: 136725 S11/Amiga Hardware
    23-Mar-94  00:24:58
Sb: #136711-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: David Hamm 76357,2667 (X)

DH >>I think I'll take your listing down to my local PC department store
this weekend!<<

Make sure you have a Commodore 23-to-15 pin adaptor for connecting the
monitor to the Amiga's Video port. :)

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

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#: 137072 S11/Amiga Hardware
    26-Mar-94  09:01:08
Sb: #136725-No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Chris Lester 73553,1670
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Redmond Cables (they advertise in AW) caries them... assuming you don't
have a local Amy dealer...

"Sucking it up in the Sandhills."


Chris - Fast and Low on my '020!
...Is it significant that my spell checker doesn't know "Intel"?

#: 137457 S11/Amiga Hardware
    30-Mar-94  00:18:39
Sb: #136725-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: David Hamm 76357,2667
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Hi Ron,

 RR >> Make sure you have a Commodore 23-to-15 pin adaptor for connecting the
monitor to the Amiga's Video port. :)

  Thanks Ron, I have the adapter... finding a VGA "multisync" that syncs on the
horizontal down to 15 kHz isn't as easy, tho. All the newer models on display
in two stores don't provide that. Also, I need the VGA display for my
GoldenGate emulator.

 - Dave

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#: 137555 S11/Amiga Hardware
    30-Mar-94  22:14:26
Sb: #137457-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: David Hamm 76357,2667 (X)


DH >>finding a VGA "multisync" that syncs on the horizontal down to 15 kHz
isn't as easy, tho.<<

True.  While I have a list of multisyncs that work, I haven't gotten a
multisync yet.  Currently, I'm making do with a VGA-only monitor & the
PPREFS promotion program.  The monitor is monochrome, but it syncs to
Double-NTSC, Double-PAL, MultiScan, and Euro72 without problems, and has a
nice flatscreen.

I need a new TV, and I was think of spending the money on a cable ready
color TV instead of the new monitor.  I would hook the A1200 to VGA most
of the time, then hook the TV upto the Composite jack when I wanted to
play a 15-kHz only game.

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

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#: 137595 S11/Amiga Hardware
    31-Mar-94  03:44:37
Sb: #137555-No Amiga Monitors
Fm: David Hamm 76357,2667
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Hi Ron...

   Thanks for the bandwidth!

   A side benefit from our conversation is that I have a note in my mailbox
from someone that may have (one) monitor for me! <smile>

Thanks,
 - Dave

#: 136990 S11/Amiga Hardware
    25-Mar-94  17:57:13
Sb: #136711-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776
To: David Hamm 76357,2667 (X)

   I called Creative Computers last night and they told me they have 1942
monitors in stock.

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#: 137459 S11/Amiga Hardware
    30-Mar-94  00:31:27
Sb: #136990-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: David Hamm 76357,2667
To: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776 (X)

Hi Leslie,

 >>I called Creative Computers last night and they told me they have 1942
monitors in stock.

  NOrmally I wouldn't have a problem with this statement, but as it is, I have
a problem with it at the moment... _I_ called Creative back in January for a
1942 monitor... When Creative didn't ship for a few weeks, I asked them about
the CTX monitor. (This was back on 2/17/94...) At that time, <Jim> told me that
the CTX was due in that day and (Creative) should be able to ship to me by the
next day.... So I waited... Figured <Jim> didn't reserve a CTX for me, and
called back again a few weeks later. At that time, Creative told me that they
didn't know when they expected the CTX in...

  I called Creative again yesterday to check on my CTX order status, and now
they tell me they expect the CTX in this week. I asked why they thought that,
and the reply was "because it's written down here..." O.K., so I'm a patient
type of guy and take that with a grain of salt.

So, Im sticking with my CTX order. I've bought my A2000 & A4000 cpu's from
them, and they _almost always_ provide the most excellent service.

If I had another dependable source for a decent multisync monitor, I would have
bought it weeks ago.

Thanks,
 - Dave

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#: 137659 S11/Amiga Hardware
    31-Mar-94  22:32:02
Sb: #137459-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776
To: David Hamm 76357,2667

   I was looking at that CTX monitor too.  A couple weeks ago Creative
told me it was in stock too.  I hope your monitor arrives soon.  If you
don't mind, could you leave a little review on the CTX?  Thanks!

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#: 137694 S11/Amiga Hardware
    01-Apr-94  10:00:28
Sb: #137659-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776 (X)

I bought a CTX 17" monitor for my PC.  It cost less than half the Sony
SE17 I had on trial ($, and it performs at least half as well, so I guess
it is a good deal.  ;-)

My impression of CTX is that it is cheap stuff, but not horrible. Depends
on what you are using it for and what your budget is.  If I sat in front
of the PC all day, I'd have spent twice as much money for a better
monitor, but since I don't, I didn't.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137696 S11/Amiga Hardware
    01-Apr-94  10:20:50
Sb: #137694-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

   Thanks for the honest evaluation.  ARE there any good multi-syncs out
there that take full advantage of the Amiga?

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#: 137700 S11/Amiga Hardware
    01-Apr-94  12:08:10
Sb: #137696-No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Leslie T. Bartiromo 72347,776

Used and refurbished -- yes.  New and affordable -- no.  There are some
$1k+ "multimedia" monitors that should be great on an Amiga, but I really
don't know any details other than that they exist.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 136966 S11/Amiga Hardware
    25-Mar-94  15:15:25
Sb: #No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Keesom 100332,3410
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Ron,
Thanks for the list.
Do i understand things right if say every monitor in the list is fully
Amiga-compatible and will display every resolution of the Amiga.
Hans Keesom Amsterdam

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#: 137014 S11/Amiga Hardware
    25-Mar-94  22:10:08
Sb: #136966-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: Keesom 100332,3410 (X)

HK >>Do i understand things right if say every monitor in the list is
fully Amiga-compatible and will display every resolution of the Amiga.<<

I personally haven't checked out the monitors on the list.  They will need
the 23-to-15 pin adaptor needed to connect the monitors to the Amiga's
Video port.

All of the monitors should display both the Hi-sync (~31-kHz) & the
Lo-sync (~15-kHz) of the Amiga.  A few like the IDEK MF-50xx, I know
support the mid-sync (~24-kHz), although all might support the mid-sync.

The only mode the monitors will not display is the A2024 mode, which
requires a "multi-panel" monitor.

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

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#: 137061 S11/Amiga Hardware
    26-Mar-94  06:57:06
Sb: #137014-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

There is no such thing as a "multi-panel" monitor.  Well, maybe the A2024
itself could be described as one since it has the video card internal to
the monitor rather than in the video slot, but that's a little like
calling my auto a "stereo-car" because it happens to contain a radio.


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137166 S11/Amiga Hardware
    26-Mar-94  23:54:11
Sb: #137061-#No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

DL >>There is no such thing as a "multi-panel" monitor.  Well, maybe the
A2024 itself could be described as one since [...]<<

It was the only name I could think of to describe the A2024, the
"multi-panel" referring to the 4 or 6 separate areas or "panels" that are
used to create the larger screen.

To my understanding, the A2024 is a "Viking MonoTerm" monitor, correct?

Is there a classification that can be given to this type of monitor, with
its built-in card and display system?

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

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#: 137189 S11/Amiga Hardware
    27-Mar-94  05:01:06
Sb: #137166-No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

The Viking Moniterm works exactly like an A2024, but is a video card and
19" monitor combination rather than a 15" monitor with the video card guts
internal to the monitor.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 136665 S11/Amiga Hardware
    22-Mar-94  09:27:05
Sb: No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Steven Mussey 71241,1124
To: Trent Hawkins 73614,533 (X)

Hmmm.  That sounds like an interesting option.

Thanks!

Steve

#: 136708 S11/Amiga Hardware
    22-Mar-94  21:12:47
Sb: No Amiga Monitors
Fm: Trent Hawkins 73614,533
To: Mark Manes/SYSOP 74030,744 (X)

<sigh>..  You're right Mark, but it is very frustrating sometimes..

Trent
"If in doubt, empty the magazine"

#: 136726 S11/Amiga Hardware
    23-Mar-94  00:25:31
Sb: #Amiga monitors to 15kHz
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: J Tough 100347,1362


JT >>any information regarding monitors that sync down to 15kHz.
Specifically, I'm looking for a list of cheap monitors (and any other
equipment that I might require to connect them).<<

I have a list of multisync monitors that will display at least the 15kHZ,
and 31kHz modes.

If you have an A1200 or A4000, you will need to get a special 23-to-15 pin
adaptor to connect the monitors to the Amiga's 23-pin Video port.

The A3000 has a 15-pin VGA connector.

The A500 & A2000 needs a de-lacing device to convert the video output into
VGA syncs.


 Model                    Manufacturer     Size   kHz       Hz      mm
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

 MS-8431                  Amazing Tech      14   15-36       ?     .31
 AML-1402                 Adara             14   15-36     45-90   .28
 CM-324                   AOC               14   15-36     50-90   .31
 CM-326                   AOC               14   15-38     50-90   .28
 Model 9002               Aydin Controls    20   15-38     40-120  .31
 Ranger 5021              Aydin             21   15.5-38.5 50-90   .31
 Patriot 9002,9003        Aydin             19   15-38     40-120  .31
 ICD 451 B                Barco             20   15-36     45-85   .31
 OCM 2846                 Barco             28   15-36     45-120  .80
 SCM 3346                 Barco             33   15-36     45-120  .80
 Auto-Trak 7114           Conrac Display    13   15.5-37   45-80   .31
 Auto-Trak 9250           Conrac Display    13   15-37.5   48-90   .31
 Model 7126S              Conrac Display    26   15-32     48-75   .82
 Model 7211               Conrac Display    13   15-37.5   47-80   .31
 Model 7211               Conrac Display    19   15-37.5   47-80   .31
 Model 7241               Conrac Display    19   15-37     47-80   .31
 Model 9214               Conrac Display    13   15-38     50-80   .28
 Multiscan 3436           CTX               14   15-38     50-90   .28
 TSM-1431                 Darius            14   15.5-39   50-90    ?
 Flexscan 9060S           EIZO              14   15.5-38.5 50-90    ?
 ECM 1410,1411            Electrohome       14   15-40     45-90   .28
 ECM 2010,2012            Electrohome       20   15-38     45-120  .31
 Eversync Color           Everex            14   15.5-35   50-70   .28
 Infinity FMS             Falco Data        14   15-38     47-90   .28
 MTS-9608S                Forefront         14   15-38     50-90    ?
 Idek MF-5015A            IDEK/Iiyama       15   15.5-39   50-90   .31
 Idek MF-5017             IDEK/Iiyama       17   15-40     50-90   .31
 Idek MF-5021A            IDEK/Iiyama       21   15.5-39   50-90   .31
 M21LMUMAX                Image Systems     21   15-65     55-90   .31
 C21LV-65MAX              Image Systems     21   15-65     55-90   .31
 C24LV-65MAX              Image Systems     24   15-65     55-90   .31
 CM-1403                  Intra             14   15-38     40-100  .28
 GD-H4220US               JVC               19   15-37     45-87   .31
 CMON M                   Leading Edge      14   15.75-39  50-90   .28
 MagicVIEW 19             MacProducts       19   15.75-36  50-100  .55
 Model 2014/LP            Microvitec        14   15-40     45-100  .31
 Model 2020               Microvitec        20   15-38       ?      ?
 AutoScan 2038            Microvitec        20   15-38     45-120  .31
 Model 710MH              Mitsuba           14   15-38     50-90   .28
 AM-1381A                 Mitsubishi        13   15.6-36   45-90   .31
 FA-3415                  Mitsubishi        14   15.7-35.5 50-87   .28
 Diamond Pro 26M          Mitsubishi        25   15-38     45-90   .31
 Diamond Scan 20LP/20M    Mitsubishi        20   15-38     45-90   .31
 HC-3915                  Mitsubishi        20   15-38     45-90   .31
 HC-3505SK                Mitsubishi        26   15.7-38   45-90   .31
 XC-3315C                 Mitsubishi        33   15-38     40-120  .83
 XC-3715C                 Mitsubishi        37   15-36     45-120   ?
 AM-2752A                 Mitsubishi        27   15.6-36   45-90   .75
 AM-3151A                 Mitsubishi        31   15.6-36   45-90   .76
 AM-3501R                 Mitsubishi        35   15-35.5   45-70   .92
 MG-3430                  Modgraph          9    15-35     50-70   .26
 MultiSync I              NEC               14   15.5-35   50-72    ?
 MultiSync II             NEC               14   15-35     50-80   .31
 MultiSync 3D             NEC               14   15.5-38   50-90   .28
 DataSmart DM-2710        NEC               27   15-38     40-100  .75
 445A801                  Nokia             20   15-35     45-80   .31
 445F001                  Nokia             20   15-35     45-80   .31
 445J202                  Nokia             20   15-35     45-80   .31
 PanaSync C1391           Panasonic         13   15.5-36   40-80   .31
 AlphaScan                Sampo             14   15.75-36  50-87   .28
 CE-8                     Sceptre           14   15-38     50-90   .28
 CM-3                     Sceptre           14   15.5-36   50-70   .31
 CPD-1302                 SONY              13   15.75-36  50-100  .25
 GVM-1310                 SONY              13   15.75-36  50-100  .25
 GVM-1311Q                SONY              13   15-36     50-100  .25
 GVM-2020                 SONY              20   15.75-36  50-100  .55
 Tuff/CRT                 Talon             14   15-35     47-73   .31
 Omniscan CM-1495H        Tatung            14   15-37     40-120  .31
 MultiVision 770+         TAXAN             14   15-37     50-90   .31
 MediaScan 3+             TVM               14   15-38     46-100  .28
 TM-5414                  TW Casper         14   15.5-35   50-70   .31
 TY-1411                  Tystar            14   15.5-37   50-120  .28
 Princeton MAX-15         Ultimate Display  14   15-36     45-120   ?
 Princeton Ultra 1200     Ultimate Display  12   15-38     45-120  .28
 Princeton Ultra 1400     Ultimate Display  14   15-38     45-120  .28
 Princeton Ultra 1600     Ultimate Display  16   15-38     45-120  .31
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

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#: 136766 S11/Amiga Hardware
    23-Mar-94  16:01:46
Sb: #136726-#Amiga monitors to 15kHz
Fm: GUILLERMO BONA 100265,170
To: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525 (X)

Ronald:
Would you know by any chance which of the monitors in your list have also
a composite input and/or RGB and what video system they use (ie.NTSC or
PAL). I currently have  a 1084S but would like to change it, and need a
monitor which will let me still use DCTV and Video Backup System which
work on TV mode. Any ideas?
Thank You

Guillermo

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#: 136828 S11/Amiga Hardware
    24-Mar-94  03:30:47
Sb: #136766-Amiga monitors to 15kHz
Fm: Ronald B. Romine 70322,1525
To: GUILLERMO BONA 100265,170 (X)

GB >>Would you know by any chance which of the monitors in your list have
also a composite input and/or RGB[...]<<

No, that info was part of the lists I have seen.  I believe all the
monitors have at least a 9 or 15 pin connector for S/VGA boards, but I
don't what other inputs they would have.

The monitors should support both PAL & NTSC rates through RGB-analog via
the 9 or 15 pin connectors.  If any of the monitors have composite
connectors, I would hazard to say they could support PAL & NTSC through
composite.

Ron.

 - ap'ing with AP.  (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
                     into jet engines.)

#: 136628 S16/Ramblings
    21-Mar-94  22:04:27
Sb: #Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: John Bono 71736,1322
To: Paul Higginbottom 76314,2742 (X)

For the short term, PPC won't destroy Intel's market share, but in five
year's time, it may be an entirely different story.  What happens when
Apple/IBM start courting companies like GateWay and Zeos and a whole bunch
of Mom and Pop mail order firms to clone the PPC machines?  PPC computers
could grab as much as 50-60% of the market at the end of five years.  At
the end of a year's time, virtually no Mac code will be written solely for
the 680x0.  Add that to a price point 20-30% below the price point of the
PPC today, and it will be well below the price of a comparable Pentium
machine.   I could definitely see in the year 2000 a major change in the
CPU most people use(less Intel 80X86, much more PPC)

John

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#: 136637 S16/Ramblings
    21-Mar-94  23:09:27
Sb: #136628-Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: Paul Higginbottom 76314,2742
To: John Bono 71736,1322 (X)

Hi John.  I agree that there will be more processor diversity over time.  I
don't think it will be because of PowerPC though.  I think it will be because
the general purpose OS will become processor independent (as NT is today).  I
certainly don't want Intel (or Microsoft) locking things up.  Competition is
good.

I wish Apple (and the PowerPC) lots of success.  It should have been Commodore
coming out with a PowerPC based Amiga by now as well.


#: 136652 S16/Ramblings
    22-Mar-94  01:53:44
Sb: Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: Paul Higginbottom 76314,2742 (X)

>PPC does, but AMD and Cyrix haven't made that much of a dent.  Cyrix's
>"486" is really a 386 with a cache. . .

AND you may not be able to get them anymore anyway.  Cyrix and TI (who
makes the chip for Cyrix) are suing each other and the availability of the
chip is pretty much up in the air at the moment.


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

#: 136649 S16/Ramblings
    22-Mar-94  01:53:33
Sb: #Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: Mike Schiller 76416,3065 (X)

Interesting.  C is supposed to be portable, but I had no idea it went
quite so far.  I wonder just how that works.  Is it toggled during
installation?


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

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#: 136790 S16/Ramblings
    23-Mar-94  20:48:52
Sb: #136649-#Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: John Toebes/SYSOP 70007,3467
To: Karl Kugel 72467,2474 (X)

C being portable is still true at the source code level.  In this case,
they want to binary to be a single packaging for multiple machines.

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#: 136904 S16/Ramblings
    24-Mar-94  22:44:51
Sb: #136790-Compaq afraid of Amiga
Fm: Karl Kugel 72467,2474
To: John Toebes/SYSOP 70007,3467 (X)

Yeah, I know, it was supposed to be a little joke.  Obviously it was even
smaller than I thought. . .<G>


-Karl     Speaking from the Rubble.

#: 137243 S16/Ramblings
    27-Mar-94  20:22:33
Sb: #Amiga Mosaic
Fm: CRAIG ZWIENER 72633,2263
To: Sysop (X)

To Sysop,

Amiga Mosaic is available through the WWW on the Internet.
Michael Meyer is one of the authors. Will it ever be available in
the libraries, here?  (AMS.LHA)


Craig     -------->  via autopilot
[e-mail]

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#: 137247 S16/Ramblings
    27-Mar-94  20:40:51
Sb: #137243-#Amiga Mosaic
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: CRAIG ZWIENER 72633,2263 (X)

LIB 4 !bro key:mosaic


[76703,2006]
MOSTCP.LHA/Bin  Bytes: 217840, Count:   16, 17-Jan-94            Last:13-Mar-94

  Title   : Amiga Mosaic v1.1 for use with AmiTCP
  Keywords: MOSAIC AMITCP FISCHER WITBROCK MEYER

  Amiga Mosaic v1.1.  This version is for use with AmiTCP. Mosaic is
  originally from the NCSA at the University of Illinois at
  Urbana Champaign. The Amiga port is by Michael Fischer, Michael
  Witbrock, and Michael Meyer).


Disposition !


[76703,2006]
MOSNNT.LHA/Bin  Bytes: 220028, Count:   22, 17-Jan-94            Last:16-Mar-94

  Title   : Amiga Mosaic v1.1, for "no net" connection usage
  Keywords: MOSAIC HYPERMEDIA FISHCER WITBROCK MEYER

  Amiga Mosaic 1.1.  This version for use with Amigas without
  TCP/IP connections. You can use it for local hypermedia.  Mosaic is
  originally from the NCSA at the University of Illinois at Urbana
  Champaign. The Amiga port is by Michael Fischer, Michael Witbrock, and
  Michael Meyer).


Disposition !


[76703,2006]
MOS225.LHA/Bin  Bytes: 219606, Count:    2, 17-Jan-94            Last:17-Jan-94

  Title   : Amiga Mosaic v1.1 for use with AS225R2
  Keywords: MOSAIC AS224R2 FISCHER WITBROCK MEYER

  Amiga Mosaic v1.1.  This version for use with AS225R2. Mosaic is
  originally from the NCSA at the University of Illinois at
  Urbana Champaign. The Amiga port is by Michael Fischer, Michael
  Witbrock, and Michael Meyer).


Disposition !


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#: 137468 S16/Ramblings
    30-Mar-94  02:02:40
Sb: #137247-#Amiga Mosaic
Fm: Robert Little 72567,677
To: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006 (X)

Steve (or anyone),

I think I know the answer, but...

Is there any way to get this (Mosaic) to run on an A2000 with 2.1 (and
several other upgrades)? I know it states it can't, but the only problem
seems to be the 'datatypes' of DOS 3.x. I'm ready to buy a new machine
but, with all the 68060, PowerPC, RISC, A5000, Pentium, ad infinitum, I've
gotta wait a tad longer. Perhaps, C= will make 3.1 available to A2000
folks but, I could see why they might not feel a pressing need. I guess I
could always become a registered developer again, but I'm not developing
right now and don't see it happening soon.

I (obviously) don't know a heck of a lot about 3.1, but if that's the only
function they use of the new version...

Robb


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#: 137475 S16/Ramblings
    30-Mar-94  02:56:20
Sb: #137468-Amiga Mosaic
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: Robert Little 72567,677 (X)

You answered your own question.  As the doc states, it requires datatypes.
Datatypes are only available with 3.x.

#: 137548 S16/Ramblings
    30-Mar-94  20:57:48
Sb: #Amiga's Future?
Fm: Richard Graff 72711,1045
To: ALL

With all the recent news about commodores financial problems, just what
are your thoughts on the future of the Amiga?  Do you think it will still
be produced on the long or short term?  How about software for it as
well.

I'm wondering if I should be getting some PC emulators for my machines now
anticipating having to switch platforms at some later date?

=Rick=

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#: 137568 S16/Ramblings
    30-Mar-94  23:29:27
Sb: #137548-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Betty Clay/SYSOP 76702,337
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

Rick,

Commodore has been through lots of rough times, and has always come
through - even when no one thought they would.  I would not give up until
it is really over.  Anticipating problems for them can make the problems
worse.  Their situation is serious - no doubt about that.  But I do hope
it is not terminal.  And even if it were, it is possible that someone
might buy the Amiga technology from them and keep making machines, at
least  to fill the needs for the video niche in which it is so popular.


---Betty

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#: 137608 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  12:10:08
Sb: #137568-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Richard Graff 72711,1045
To: Betty Clay/SYSOP 76702,337 (X)

Well, I wasn't really thinking of just giving up on the machine, I have
too much invested in it for that between equipment and the programs I use
such as PageStream, Imagemaster, Finalwriter etc.  Even if Amiga's and
these software packages stopped production and upgrading tommorrow, they
would still suit my needs for years.

Still, there is a gap with regards to the available software for home use
such as educational software for my daughter and software such as Quicken
for home financial management, and the lack of a good spreadsheet such as
lotus.  I probably should look at something like the upcoming PCMCIA
version of emplant to fill these gaps on my A1200.  This way I would be
covered regardless which way things go with regards to the Amiga in the
future.

=Rick=

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#: 137652 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  21:32:53
Sb: #137608-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Betty Clay/SYSOP 76702,337
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045

I suspect that time alone will tell us what will happen to the Amiga.  It
could be very soon, and it could be a long time.  And in the meantime, the
machines we have will continue to do what they do for us, as you say.  I
have no answers, but I'm not willing to give up while there is still a
little life left in the company.


---Betty

#: 137675 S16/Ramblings
    01-Apr-94  01:26:30
Sb: #137608-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Black Belt Systems 76004,1771
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045

"Imagemaster..."  "Even if these software packages stopped production..."

We just released 1.50; a BIG upgrade for Imagemaster R/t. Also ApAssist
2.0, and we're about 1-2 weeks away from AVT 5.0, a HAM radio item we make
which has enjoyed pretty good sales, all things considered.

So don't count us out!

--Ben
       ...via AutoPilot

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#: 137698 S16/Ramblings
    01-Apr-94  11:54:44
Sb: #137675-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Wayne Steele 76276,3371
To: Black Belt Systems 76004,1771

Great news!  Imagemaster is a powerful asset to the Amiga market.  I, for one,
will continue to use my Amiga and support its third-party developers whether
Commodore dies or not.  I see no reason to jump ship right away.

Let's face it.  Commodore has been "brain dead" for quite some time.  Most of
us who support the Amiga have done so without any help from them.  Our strength
has always came from devoted users and developers.

#: 137584 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  02:46:20
Sb: #137548-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Richard Erickson 72017,632
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

I have no great wish to get a MAC or PC, so I am hoping a solution will
be worked out. I would like to see Commodore as a company sold to a
company wishing to add a computer division. If Commodore is liquidated,
it is still possible the Amiga line being an asset would be sold. The OS
and chipsets are the big things that could be sold.

Richard -> On AutoPilot

#: 137592 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  02:49:01
Sb: #137548-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Brian Bartlett 72037,570
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

Rick,
   heck, the original design team ran out of money creating this beast and
the travails of C= have kept things lively here for years, and the Bandito
in business.  Basically, I wouldn't count C= out until I'm staring at the
dead body, and even then, I'd be wondering if a resuscitation or
ressurection were going to occur.
   The central question is, if they go into bankruptcy, will it be
liquidation or just a simple protection, and if the latter, will they
recover.  Heck, on any of these, I wouldn't know which way to bet.
   I can only suggest a wait and see attitude with respect to what is
going to happen with them.  Even if they do go completely under, you will
have a window of a year, or so, where emulators will still be available.
Not every company can shift its manufacturing lines that quickly, nor
should they want to as demand will probably be horrendous for emulators.
Also, keep in mind that you can still buy products for the C-64, and that
beast is what, fourteen years old?  Get yourself on a catalog mailing
list, like Tenex or somebody, and place an order for an emulator after we
get a final resolution on the death of C=.
   If you can't take a chance, check out PC-Task from Dev-Ware (sp?).
It's cheap and works.


#: 137597 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  03:48:42
Sb: #137548-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

Whether or not Commodore is still around, if your Amigas do what you need
now, don't worry about PC emulators.

When your Amigas stop doing what you need, then is the time to look at
other platforms.  They'll change some and get cheaper some in the mean
time. At that point, I'd probably just add an inexpensive PC rather than
an emulator -- currently 8-16 megs of RAM and a 486 is what you really
want for anything better than horribly sluggish Windoze app performance,
and that isn't very practiacal to add as an emulator.


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

#: 137607 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  12:09:39
Sb: #137548-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Wayne Steele 76276,3371
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

If Commodore fails, I have no intention of giving up my Amiga right away.  I
think the Amiga community is already self-supporting and can keep the machine
usable for at least a couple more years.  During that time, I would carefully
consider what my next long-term platform would be.  Obviously, I'm not in any
hurry to jump on the PC/Mac bandwagon.

Note that I said IF Commodore fails.  They aren't dead yet.  They're just on
the brink.  Amiga users need to be careful right now.  Too much negative
speculation could bury Commodore for good.  No Commodore means no Amiga.

For now, keep using your Amiga.  Keep telling others about it.  Keep supporting
third party hardware and software developers.  And, keep registering your
shareware.  This kind of support from all of us is far more important to the
Amiga's future than Commodore ever was.

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#: 137612 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  12:18:41
Sb: #137607-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Richard Graff 72711,1045
To: Wayne Steele 76276,3371 (X)

Wayne,

I've had no problem supporting the Amiga in the past, I only use Software
that I have actually purchased and I always register shareware programs I
decide to perminately install on my machines, judging from local users
that I talk to, this is not necessarily a normal practice.

I think I will get an emulator board of somekind, there is a lot of DOS
based educational software for my daughter, not to mention I would like a
program like Quicken and a spreadsheet such as Lotus.  My marketing
department uses Lotus and it would save me a lot of time preparing
proposals and quotations if I could swap data files with them.

Probably the best bet at this time is to continue using my Amiga as I am
and keep my options open <G>.

=Rick=

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#: 137616 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  14:22:31
Sb: #137612-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045 (X)

All the coolest PC stuff you can get for your daughter isn't going to be
worth a damn under emulation -- you want an MPC-II machine -- CD-ROM,
sound card, etc.  A low end machine to do this really doesn't cost that
much.

Quicken and Lotus, on the other hand, would probably be fine (if slow) on
a dirt cheap software-only DOS emulation.


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137626 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  17:34:41
Sb: #137616-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Richard Graff 72711,1045
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

When you refer to an "MPC-II machine, what specifically are you refering
to?  What kind of base system could I get that I could expand as I could
afford it. 386 or 486 etc.???

I'm now wondering if I would be better off selling the A500 & A2000 that I
bought recently, Moving my A1200 system to my office and putting the PC in
the den, my daughter doesn't really like using the A500 by herself in her
room anyway.  I could always network these two systems together if I
wanted to trade files between them.

Well, we'll have to resume this discussion on Monday, I have to get going
to my mother-in-laws for the weekend.

Enjoy your weekend


=Rick=

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#: 137627 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  18:05:19
Sb: #137626-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045

MPC is the "Multimedia PC" "standard."  I don't know the exact specs for
MPC or MPC-II, but MPC-II is current.  I think that most decent vendors
who sell systems with CD-ROMs and sound cards would only be selling you
MPC-II stuff.

You want a minimum of a 486sx with 4M RAM, 2x CD-ROM, sound card.  Really,
you should be able to squeak 8M of RAM in there and get a 33mhz machine.
Without a monitor, you can do this from Gateway for around $1500.  You'd
easily be able to upgrade to 486dx66 later if you wanted.

How much were you planning to spend on all the cool software?  It ain't
cheap.

Networking an A1200 and a PC is highly non-trivial.  But, you could pick
up a $300 ICard and an Ethernet adaptor for the PC.  TCP/IP and NFS.
Don't forget to buy more memory for the PC.  :-)

I doubt you can get enough for your A500 and A2000 to make it worth
selling them.  I'd wait.  CD32 really might take off and have the software
you want for your daughter and save you a lot of money over an MPC-II
machine.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137671 S16/Ramblings
    01-Apr-94  00:52:33
Sb: #137627-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Dale and Richard, FYI for simple file transfers between A3000, A1200, and
PC, I use TWIN.  It works like a real champ.  I get over a meg/minute in
express mode (7 wire serial) which is better than what I used to get on
the PC Ethernet and Mac Appletalk networks at work.  I run it through a
switchbox to my A3000 serial port and it works great.

-Jerry

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#: 137690 S16/Ramblings
    01-Apr-94  09:32:47
Sb: #137671-#Amiga's Future?
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710 (X)

A meg a minute was the best you got on PC Ethernet?!?  Those were nasty
yucky controllers or nasty yucky PCs or nasty yucky software.  I regularly
exceed 300k/s on Ethernet between Amigas, and I don't think that my PC is
any slower.

--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137705 S16/Ramblings
    01-Apr-94  13:40:47
Sb: #137690-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Jerry Thompson 75300,3710
To: Dale Larson 76702,654

One of the engineers said that our system was getting a *LOT* of bad
packet errors and that the PC Ethernet controllers weren't cacheing the
packets or doing DMA or something.  Our system admins didn't know what
they were doing.  But I always got slightly better transfer rates going to
through the A2065 in my Amiga.  Networking from the Amiga in general was
always better for me than from either the Mac or PC.

-Jerry Thompson

#: 137637 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  19:47:44
Sb: #137616-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Tom Jones 76470,1332
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

I agree, the things I do on my Amiga today will continue to work just as
well whether Commodore is in chapter 11 or not. In fact the last time I
bought anything that depended on Commodore Intl directly was when I
marched into WertKauf Frankfurt and bought my Amiga 2000 for DM800 over
three years ago, everything else was from aftermarket vendors. Especially
the software, which is the most critical element. Amiga shareware authors
are the best for quality price and support I know of. You don't get that
level of support from PC shareware in my experience.

This box will still be productive for years yet. The one thing I will miss
is AmigaDos 3.1 for all platforms if they don't distribute that. I hope
someone does.

But as everyone else said already, don't count them out until the fat lady
sings...twice. They have been at deaths door before and returned. That has
always been one of Commodore's endearing characteristics: their stock
plummets and climbs like a teenager's moods, you can make a fortune riding
that bronco if you can stand the pressure. I've done it a lot.

Even if the worst comes, there are a lot aftermarket suppliers and
enterpreneurs out there that will keep the Amiga supplied for quite a
while yet. An Emplant,Amax, or Bridgeboard could keep them playing far
beyond the death of their producer. Software is the real key to survival.

Tom
Oklahoma City, OK  USA
[e-mail]

#: 137628 S16/Ramblings
    31-Mar-94  18:20:06
Sb: #137612-Amiga's Future?
Fm: Peter Wade 100265,2740
To: Richard Graff 72711,1045

In my experience, PC emulators are not a lot of use for graphics programs.
I have a GVP PC/286 which tries to emulate EGA or VGA displays. It won't
run many PC games. Even Commander Keen which is not a state of the art
game messes it up. Its fine for text based software though (as long as it
doesn't try to use too many colours). The main problem is that non-AGA
Amigas cannot totally emulate VGA. Also, a lot of new PC software needs a
386.


Peter Wade
Autopiloting from London, England

#: 136678 S17/Classified
    22-Mar-94  15:28:56
Sb: #Amiga 500 & software
Fm: Kathleen Carmony 74104,374
To: All

I used to be an Amiga dealer about 6 years ago.  I now have switched over
completely to IBM due to my current job as a Novell network administrator.  I
have an Amiga 500 and probably at least $2000.00 worth of software - mostly
desktop publishing, animation, graphics, accounting with a few games thrown in.
Looking to sell to someone who's looking for a deal.  Respond and we can
negotiate.  Not even sure what a used A500 is worth anymore!  -Kathleen

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#: 137091 S17/Classified
    26-Mar-94  11:54:38
Sb: #136678-Amiga 500 & software
Fm: Charles Blaquiere 76046,1756
To: Kathleen Carmony 74104,374

Kathleen,

You'll be able to sell your gear more easily if you post a complete list of
specs:

HARDWARE -- how much memory is in the 500? Does it have any extras, like
additional floppy drives? Does it come with a monitor? Which one?

SOFTWARE -- by category, what do you have? More importantly, which version of
each program?

                                              Blaq!


#: 137245 S17/Classified
    27-Mar-94  20:33:22
Sb: Amiga 1000 for sale
Fm: mike savu 75206,3305
To: All

For sale Amiga 1000 with 1.5 megs of ram, external 3.5 inch drive, Commodore
1080 color monitor, joystick and about 8-10 games and productivity software.
Have original boxes and manuals for computer. I would like $220.00 plus
shipping and COD charges. If interested call 810-477-2460 and ask for Mike or
leave e-mail to 75206,3305

#: 137246 S17/Classified
    27-Mar-94  20:35:15
Sb: Amiga 500 for parts
Fm: mike savu 75206,3305
To: All

Amiga 500 for parts. Will not power up and is missing the 68000 processor.
Everything else is there. I would like $30.00 plus shipping. If interested
leave e-mail to 75206,3305

#: 137308 S17/Classified
    28-Mar-94  14:32:04
Sb: Amiga Peripherals
Fm: bill berger 70754,2765
To: All

All of the following include necessary software, documentation and accessories
unless otherwise noted. Spring Cleaning '94,  all removed last week and working
fine.

Commodore A2620 accelerator card, 68020 @ 14 MHz, 68881 math chip, 68851 MMU, 2
megs of 32 bit ram, upgraded 2.x ROMs.  $200.00

Commodore A2286 bridgeboard, IBM 286 compatible on a card, Janus 2.1 software
and upgraded 2.x ROMs, DOS 3.3.  No floppy drive.  $150.00

Digitronics RC4 RAM card, 4 megs of 16 bit Zorro II ram, fully populated with
DRAM chips.  $200.00

GVP Series II SCSI/RAM card, 1 meg of 16 bit RAM, room for 1 more meg using
DRAM chips, SCSI controller with FAASTROM upgrade.  $100.00

Quantum Q280 hard drive, 80 meg SCSI, 5 1/4", 1/2 height.  No bad sectors, but
it has stiction problem if you don't leave it on or use it every day or so.
Good for a BBS or if you use your system alot.  $90

Seagate ST251N hard drive, 40 meg SCSI, 5 1/4", 1/2 height.  Works fine, not
used for a couple of years.  $50.00

ECE midi interface for A2000/A500 with serial pass through.  $40.00

Home brew external 360k 5 1/4" floppy disk in powered case for reading/writing
MSDOS disks.  Has custom latch circuit and 23 pin connection to plug right into
your Amiga.  The drive and case alone are worth $140, only looking for $100.00
Leave me mail if interested with a daytime phone# if you want me to call.


#: 137374 S17/Classified
    29-Mar-94  01:41:39
Sb: Amiga for Sale
Fm: Raymond R. Fortier Jr. 74151,1375
To: All

To All, If your looking for Amigas look at my ad, in the Compuserve's
classified ads, other computers.

                                 Ray Fortier 74151,1375


#: 137422 S17/Classified
    29-Mar-94  19:33:16
Sb: #Amiga 4000/040 For Sale
Fm: Thomas R. Krotchko 71232,2752
To: all

I have an Amiga 4000/040 for sale.

Also included:

Princeton Ultra 14 Monitor (although it acts flaky).
2nd IDE internal HD (total of 260M of HD space)
Incredible list of software (ask, but it includes games, compilers,
productivity, music, everything)
2091 controller.
Tandberg tape back up, and several tapes.

Make offer.  I just don't use it any more.  You'll have to pay shipping, but
all original boxes, manuals etc etc. are included, including software.

The unit was only used 6 months after Commodore replaced it under warranty.
This is basically brand new.

Leave email or call me at [phone].

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#: 137434 S17/Classified
    29-Mar-94  20:37:48
Sb: #137422-Amiga 4000/040 For Sale
Fm: Paul Idol 71024,3245
To: Thomas R. Krotchko 71232,2752 (X)

What's the software, and what's the motherboard rev?  Hard to make an
offer without those.

Paul

#: 137497 S17/Classified
    30-Mar-94  12:50:18
Sb: #137422-Amiga 4000/040 For Sale
Fm: Thomas R. Krotchko 71232,2752
To: Thomas R. Krotchko 71232,2752 (X)

I forgot to mention, there is also a 2232 7 port serial card included.

#: 137451 S17/Classified
    29-Mar-94  23:06:18
Sb: Amiga 3000 for Sale
Fm: Ron Geiger 72401,3704
To: ALL

For Sale Amiga 3000

        - 25  MHZ Motherboard
        - 6 meg of ram (2meg of chip and 4 meg of fast)
        - 50 meg hard drive (Quantum)
        - 2 floppies (DF0 is a Commodore High Density)
                     (DF1 is a standard 880k drive)
        - Software includes :

                Superbase Professional
                Final Copy II
                Pro Page 4.1
                Pro Draw 3.1
                Fighter Duel
                Airbus 320
           Lattice 5.1
                Amiga Dos 2.1

        If interested please leave me Email or you can call me at [phone]
after 6:00 pm EST. I am asking $600.00 for this system and that will include
shipping cost upto $20.00. If the Shipping cost are more that $20.00 you will
have to pay anything over the $20.00. Ron Geiger
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#: 136705 S1/New Uploads
    22-Mar-94  20:29:24
Sb: BackPack
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: All

In Library 11 (Fonts/Pointer/Icons)

BPACK.LHA/Bin   Bytes: 191284

  Title   : BackPack, Backdrops, hires pointer, bootpic, WB3+
  Keywords: BACKPACK BACKDROP PATTERN POINTER BOOTPIC EKSTROM

  BackPack is a backdrop package containing 19 backdrops for use with
  AGA and Workbench 3+. The backdrops range from 4 to 16 colours.  As a
  bonus there is also a high resolution mouse pointer and a startup
  picture to be displayed at boottime.  BackPack is freeware and copyright
  1994 Tom Ekstrom.


#: 137104 S1/New Uploads
    26-Mar-94  13:02:20
Sb: Space BBS Door
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: All

In Library 5 (Communications) ...

SE622.LHA/Bin   Bytes:  92160

  Title   : Space Empire v6.22 is a FREEWARE BBS door game
  Keywords: SPACE EMPIRE BBS DOOR GAME CITADEL CNET DLG RADNOF

  Space Empire v6.22 is a FREEWARE BBS door game that can be used with
  any BBS program that supports STDIO type doors.  This door has
  instructions for setup with Citadel, CNET, DLG, and other BBS programs.
  Citadel Space Empire is an Economic/Military game based on the original
  Space Empire by Jon Radnof.  This archive includes all the files and
  documentation needed.


#: 137654 S2/Forum Business/Help
    31-Mar-94  21:58:04
Sb: #Edmonton Access??
Fm: Trent Hawkins 73614,533
To: All

Does anyone know if the Edmonton AB Canada number for CIS access at 9600
baud (or bps) is a direct access line for CIS, or a Datapac #?

Trent
"If in doubt, empty the magazine"

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#: 137655 S2/Forum Business/Help
    31-Mar-94  22:01:15
Sb: #137654-Edmonton Access??
Fm: Steve Ahlstrom/SYSOP 76703,2006
To: Trent Hawkins 73614,533 (X)

If you GO PHONES you can get the info directly.  For Edmonton ...

Edmonton         AB 403/466-5083 300  1200 2400            CPS 224MNP
Edmonton         AB 403/440-2744                9600       CPS V32

#: 136912 S5/Communications
    24-Mar-94  23:42:52
Sb: #Access Compuserv
Fm: Rick Stuve 76346,3450
To: ALL

I have a freind who has an Amiga and would like to access Compuserv.  He was
wondering if there was somthing like WINCIM wich is what I use on an IBM (sorry
(-:))  I have no idea and the people he called at compuserve said he had to
download it from compuserv.
  I was going to get it for him and then let him get it from me.
  Does anyone have any suggestions for me to download.  Anything you can do to
help me help him get going would be great.

Thanks
Rick

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#: 136923 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  01:05:05
Sb: #136912-Access Compuserv
Fm: Betty Clay/SYSOP 76702,337
To: Rick Stuve 76346,3450 (X)

The program you want is AutoPilot, Library 9 of AmigaVendor, AP.LHA and
APDOCS.LHA.  In order to use this, your friend must have OS2.04 or later,
2M RAM, and about 5M of hard drive for best use.  It is possible to work
with less hard drive, but not with earlier OS or less RAM.

If your friend has either CrossDOS or OS2.1 or later, then he can read
720K MSDOS disks.  You could download to such a disk and then he can just
stick it in his Amiga drive and read it.  He will also need LHA138.RUN
from Library 16 of AmigaUser in order to extract the file.  LHA138.RUN is
a  archive.

---Betty

#: 136924 S5/Communications
    25-Mar-94  01:31:28
Sb: #136912-Access Compuserv
Fm: GUILLERMO BONA 100265,170
To: Rick Stuve 76346,3450 (X)

Rick:
There is no equivalent to WINCIM but there is something which I think is
even better it is called Autopilot. Basically what this does is that it
lets you log in retreive,post,download or upload whatever you have decided
in advance that you wanted to do, and logs you out automatically. Therefor
you don't spend time on line browsing through messages and libraries.It is
great. I have a PC and an Amiga, on both I can log in to Compuserve, since
I got Autopilot I don't even think about loggin in with the PC. In any
case you will find a demo program in Amigavendor Autopilot section.You
just download the software, install it on your friends computer (he will
need a PC disk reader sofware for his Amiga to read the file you will be
giving him-he can get the sofware to do this from a shareware dealer-it is
not expensive),the demo version will log him in  and allow him some
restricted use, but it is enough to understand what this program is
capable of doing. Once he is ready to buy the full version he comunicates
this to Autopilot and they send you an electronic key which makes the
program fully operating.

Alternative;ly he could get a terminal shareware program such as Terminus,
you can log in to Compuserve but has no fancy interface and looking for
info, particularly for a begginer, could be time consuming.But it works
Good luck

Guillermo

#: 137492 S5/Communications
    30-Mar-94  11:56:03
Sb: #faxea & ans machine
Fm: Gracia M. Littauer 73670,1020
T^C
in Charlotte,
North Carolina. It indicates you can write to him c/o AmigaWorld
Editorial, 80 Elm St., Peterborough, NH 03458.

I know this is old information and that you will have to worry whether
these programs do what you want them to and/or if they will work on a
A1200. I distinctly
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#: 137340 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  20:10:46
Sb: #Commodore Stock
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: all

Did any one notice that Commodore stock was not traded on the NYSE today?

Or that the WSJ carried an article with the headline "Commodore may face
liquidation" (page B3)?


--  Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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#: 137349 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  22:02:51
Sb: #137340-Commodore Stock
Fm: Steve Pietrowicz/SYSOP 76701,250
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

I noticed the first (stock not traded) when I got home today.  Should be
interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days....

#: 137350 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    28-Mar-94  22:03:30
Sb: #137340-Commodore Stock
Fm: Paul Idol 71024,3245
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

Well, on that bright note there's a building I've been meaning to jump out
of for quite some time now!


Cheers!

Paul

#: 137380 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  03:37:40
Sb: #137340-#Commodore Stock
Fm: daniel wolf 70250,626
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

my broker said there was 'an order imbalance' in Commodore - in other words,
more sellers than buyers, causing a trading halt until price could be
established.  those with weak knees are bailing.

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#: 137400 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  12:38:50
Sb: #137380-Commodore Stock
Fm: Richard Erickson 72017,632
To: daniel wolf 70250,626

Now the NYSE is deciding if Commodore should remain on the exchange, and
the price is down to 75 cents.

Richard -> AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000

#: 137389 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  08:51:16
Sb: #137340-#Commodore Stock
Fm: gary vassalotti 73710,1721
To: Dale Larson 76702,654 (X)

I have noticed with the Journal, that with certain stocks, the only NEWS that
is reported is the bad news, and the good things that happen are ignored.  If
you followed chrysler when it almost whent belly up and hit $3 share, they
placed large headlines with the negative news, and the positive news that was
comming out on the company received small type in the middle of the paper.

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#: 137404 S3/Hot News and Rumors
    29-Mar-94  14:04:06
Sb: #137389-#Commodore Stock
Fm: Dale Larson 76702,654
To: gary vassalotti 73710,1721 (X)

Commodore stock trading on the NYSE is still halted while "the exchange
reviews its eligibility for continued listing of the issue."

While no stock has traded since the close of the market Friday, the noon
asking price was 1.75 and offer was .75.

WSJ didn't invent something.  The^C
ntangible Assets Manufacturing
--  INTERNET:[e-mail]

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